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Derandru

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Friday, April 20th 2012, 6:20am

Server Economy

Judging by how the forum posts, this server seems to be fairly new. Yet... why is the server economy so inflated? Most of the HR servers I've played with have their normal MVP cards at 10m and under and the more valued mvp cards at 500m+ and the super rare ones at 1b... yet when i go to the marketplace, everything seems to be at 200m+ I've even seen shitty cards at 75m and more than one vendor is selling at this price... So... why is this server's economy so inflated?

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Friday, April 20th 2012, 6:23am

There was an issue with duplicated zeny a few months back. This is why our economy is so inflated. There is no way for the GM Team to have a fixed price on items, It it based on the players who are selling items for "Over Priced". I wish there was a way to lower down the prices but it seems like players are still going to sell for high prices.

Edit : This server has been up for 1year - 2years; Forums were reloaded.

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Friday, April 20th 2012, 12:22pm

because resources of zeny/ itmes here is more available than your previous server. . .
that's why it is different in here

actually the prices of items now are lower now than before

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Friday, April 20th 2012, 1:15pm

Well the thing is that's how people do business it's not really inflation but like what sera said prices are really lower than before . Like in real life some thing are expensive at one place maybe if you look for the same thing in another place they might have been cheaper .... Lazy people who don't try to obtain zeny is what making the economy inflated , that's what i always think
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Friday, April 20th 2012, 9:35pm

blame it on the OP f****** vendors! Tao used to be 1-2b now its up 13-15b. altough, recently ive seen tao being sold at 8b. its because MVPs arent monopolized now eversince newcomers came. Once we get more people on the server and they start hunting MVPs, im pretty sure the prices will drop.
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Friday, April 20th 2012, 10:19pm

Actually i think the price is quite reasonable right now if they do they add more ladders , with the increase of guardian rewards . i guess it's allow the players to cope with the price
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Saturday, April 21st 2012, 9:57am

Well I was thinking, if you increased the drop rate of MVP cards TEMPORARILY to let's say, 10%, wouldn't that solved the problem? More MVP cards will be injected into the economy, prices drop, everyone will be hunting and selling, more market activity, etc. etc. And it'll prolly attract more players too! (okay, not that many).

On another note.... this server seems to have 50 active players max at a time..

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Saturday, April 21st 2012, 10:07am

The amount of players in the game depends on the timing of your login . there's more just that the rest are busy hunting and stuff of at different town . Increase the rate may be good but it can be good too if there's no increment of the percentage if so it will be very unbalanced if someone would have donation point and go for bubble gum which increases the rate by 100% and that would make a 20% drop rate and this not fair to those who don't donates at all especially when the donation token is not implemented yet
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Saturday, April 21st 2012, 10:15am

Well to balance that, they could as well, TEMPORARILY remove bubblegum and cancel the bubblegum's use. Tell the donors to save their bubblegum or it'll be wasted for its canceled effects. Once the economy stabilizes with good market activity, drop the MVP card rate back to 5% and give the bubblegum users 110% so they'll shut up and be happy :D I'm pretty sure 100% vs 100% will not make that much of a noticeable effect, but enough to compensate.

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Saturday, April 21st 2012, 11:39am

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Well to balance that, they could as well, TEMPORARILY remove bubblegum and cancel the bubblegum's use. Tell the donors to save their bubblegum or it'll be wasted for its canceled effects. Once the economy stabilizes with good market activity, drop the MVP card rate back to 5% and give the bubblegum users 110% so they'll shut up and be happy :D I'm pretty sure 100% vs 100% will not make that much of a noticeable effect, but enough to compensate.

Don't understand about the part on the bubble gum with 110% , and increasing the effect doesn't actually make it's good but maybe make it bad . Can you predict when the economy will go back to normal when this idea is accepted ? i think by then no trading would be done as everyone should have the cards that they need , just like other servers they make card rate high and the problem is you get bored easily because things can obtain easily and therefore they have no trading done due to the high rate .
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Saturday, April 21st 2012, 11:59am

Bubblegum gives 100% drop boost (2x) and making it 110% 2.1x so total drop rate will be 10.5 when bubblegum is used. Boosting it to 10% for lets say... 2 weeks will not mean the market will be immediately flooded with cards.

Sure, maybe flooded with CRAPPY MVP cards from MVPS with high respawn times. And the reason I'm bringing this up is because the economy isn't really normal. A normal economy should be pretty robust. Its pretty inflated, which is why I'm seeing the same vendors over and over. 75m for MVP arena cards?? As a newb, earning 75m will take quite a while seeing as the guardian rooms are always occupied; I would rather hunt the MVP arena cards myself. But hunting them myself would simply mean crappy market activity, which is what this topic is kinda about.

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Saturday, April 21st 2012, 12:13pm

You never know , i'm a hunter i can tell you 2 weeks i can get stock up more than you will ever imagine , that's is why vendors are there to help lazy people you pay for the price of being lazy and what kind of crappy cards were you referring to ? you have forgotten something that there are mvp rooms available and bimbi is putting more mvp ladders room to help recover the economy . In my opinion i don't see why there's need to increase the drop rate but i do agree on the bubble gum solution maybe adding extra rates to it
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Saturday, April 21st 2012, 12:15pm

...........Adding more mvp ladders rooms will be doing the same thing as boosting the drop rate = more mvp cards. Well at least action is being dealt to fix the economy.

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Saturday, April 21st 2012, 12:20pm

In Mvp ladders the mvp you are dealing with doesn't drop anything but it give zeny for each level you clear . As for the mvp room it's always empty 'crappy' mvp are inside waiting to be killed and the respawn rate is much faster than what you find outside the room
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Saturday, April 21st 2012, 12:51pm

actually bubblegum gives 100% more drop rate. so for MVP cards since they are all at 5% chance, upon using bubblegum the chance doubles up so its only 10%. not 110%
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Saturday, April 21st 2012, 1:19pm

Ace ! i know ~~ hahhaha . i mean increase in percentage of drop rate after consuming it instead of 100%
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Saturday, April 21st 2012, 9:05pm

well i ddnt actually read the whole post. i only saw a 110% so i commented lmao
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Sunday, April 22nd 2012, 2:09am

Hahaha it's ok ace . So do you think the increasing the server drop rate is a good idea to recover the economy?
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Sunday, April 22nd 2012, 3:00am

Well allowing players to access more zeny, aka. injection of money (another form of increasing inflation actually), MAY not be a bad thing for this server, but there's many REAL LIFE examples where this has failed. Greece is a very recent one. It's fked. MEH, anyone up for other viable solutions?

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Sunday, April 22nd 2012, 3:08am

Actually the gms had done some measures to help by adding more mvp ladders making the guardian rooms are not hog with afkers just to give others a chance in getting those zenies that they need . if you haven't tried those you yet or can't be bother then i don't think this thread should not be up .
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