Reflecting

Mike92

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Tuesday, February 21st 2012, 12:30pm

i have a question
whats the max reflection u can get as none RG class?

beceause sometimes i pvp someone and i just kill myself on the reflection?
and the athor one stays alive.

thx

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Tuesday, February 21st 2012, 4:50pm

yes i would also like to know this i was dueling someone and all i get is a one hit ko with my own tera but they dont die the reflecting has to much % in the server

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Tuesday, February 21st 2012, 5:13pm

RG's Reflect Damage reflects 40% of all damage back to a 3x3 square around the RG. This is balanced. Seeing as RG's were built to be Tanks, this is one of their main skills.

The reason you're getting so damaged with Reflect, is because of people using +10 Valk Manteau.

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Tuesday, February 21st 2012, 5:17pm

ohhh ok well i guess i have to find a way thanx bro ;p

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Mike92

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Tuesday, February 21st 2012, 5:49pm

and non RG users?
bcuz in woe i just kill myself vs reflection
and im talking about melee btw

and the only card i know is orc lord 30% ea right?
so if they use 2 it wuld be 60% reflect

so HOW can i kill myself if its 60% dmg reflect?
so i hitt still 40% more and the reflecter keeps alive and i die?

+ i have 700k hp, the reflecter cant cuz he or she are not useing toa gunka but orc lord instead
how the hell can i kill myself on them? 0_o

i had 2 people in woe today who used it against me
a Sura and a GX
i dont understand this..

maby people can explain this to me.

EDIT:

in woe i just attacked the sura the sura didnt attack me.
and i died.. so if its posible to reflect more then ur normal dmg u dealing to an enemey i think its kinda unblanced then? 0_o
and sura cant have the effect of reflecting with the valk mantue

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Tuesday, February 21st 2012, 6:03pm

Wrong. +10 Valk Manteau, for swordsman class gives about 30% reflection rates. So this means with Reflect Damage and +10 Valk(Which alot of people have) You reflect back 70% Damage.

And that's only RG. Other classes i don't understand how they get so much reflect.
P.S. Sura have Cresent Elbow, which reflects like 500% of damage back.

What class are you?

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Mike92

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Tuesday, February 21st 2012, 8:15pm

RK bb build
so sura have a skill for reflecting?
so sura can easely get +100% reflecting?..
so its just 100% anti melee pshy dmg then?
cuz people will kill them selfs lol 0_o

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And that's only RG. Other classes i don't understand how they get so much reflect.

yea and that is what i want to know..
i could think of 2 orc lord cards but then they will easy get kild beceuse of thier hp. but thier are not easy. they survive my attacks and i kill myself cuz of the reflection
so i dont understand how people can do so much reflect

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Tuesday, February 21st 2012, 8:19pm

Yes, i have posted this before somewhere. I Sacrificed a Sura once when i had only 564k max hp, and the reflect from sacrifice killed me.

Sacrifice = 9% of Max HP

9% of 564,000 = 62,666.6r

So this did 62,700 damage to my max HP, and did this much damage to his HP, the Reflect did over 502k Damage back to me. Just from 1 Sacrifice.

If you're casting Magic to them. Like Tetra Votex, they might use Platinum shield (40% Chance to reflect Magic back at the enemy) + Maya Card = Magic fail.

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Mike92

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Tuesday, February 21st 2012, 8:24pm

wtf.

yea i do like +-50k ea hit
so i will be dead in like 2 sec....
maby there have to be a good look at the balance of reflection?
RG's are reflecters i dodnt care if i get kild by reflection by them

but if non RG classes kill me with reflection is kinda strange and unblanced.
now i just talked about a sura that didnt attack me

but what if:
people have that much reflection+they are attacking you? wtf then does all melee psy dmg builds have no effect.
its just sucuide 0_o

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Tuesday, February 21st 2012, 9:00pm

Maybe you should mention something about it then.

It's not reflecting in General. It's Crescent Elbow.

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Tuesday, February 21st 2012, 10:59pm

Crescent Elbow is a skill that reflects damage back at you but only after 1 hit. Its just the same as RK's Death Bound. And seeing as you are an str build RK, Death Bound would actually be the same damage as that of Crescent Elbow.

Crescent Elbow:
Attempt to counter an enemies attack, knocking back the opponent and dealing damage, though you'll still take damage. The higher the HP of the target, the more damage it does. The skill consumes 2 spirit spheres, and cannot be used on boss monsters.

So thats why you died, cause you got high HP. Also, you can use runes to deflect any damage incoming to you.

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Kairoseki

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Tuesday, February 21st 2012, 11:41pm

1st of all, 1 orc Lord card gives 15% reflect, so if using 2 its 30% lol
So ye, as Royal said, a lot use +10 Valkyrie Mant. (WHICH I WANT TO BUY DUH)
Some can also use Platinum shield, but thats for reflecting magic

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Wednesday, February 22nd 2012, 12:52am

shield of naga has a chance to reflect damage too
and high orc card gives additional reflect

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bangason

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Wednesday, February 22nd 2012, 1:50am

shield of naga doesnt work.

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CrazyMonkeyMan

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Wednesday, February 22nd 2012, 2:27am

2x orc lord = 30%
+10 Valk mant is 25% (not 30% royal)
+10 Galaxy wings/blue-yellow wings gives +15%
High orc 5%
Thorn Shield 5%
atm im still searching but all classes can get at least 80% reflect.

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Klare

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Wednesday, February 22nd 2012, 2:44am

Heh, i remember when toypitz had the highest reflection ever.

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luiswer123

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Wednesday, February 22nd 2012, 3:40am

ok i just wanna sat this im testing stiff out with my matk maya card has to reduce its % i try soul sriker 5 times out of does 5 hits only i hit her 1 time i just test it know and with rg i knwo they have thier spell shield thats ok i dont mind they are thankers anyway but maya card has to have reduce % on the card its to much

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bangason

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Wednesday, February 22nd 2012, 4:52am

REQUESTING TO REDUCE REFLECT DAMAGE ON MAYA.

Orc Lord original script is 30% reflect. Now, its 15% at NRO.
Maya original script is 30% magic reflect. It should also be reduced to 15%.

And platinum shield needs to be 5%.

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