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Finally im just about worn out here..

Quoted from "vimvim23"

Yes but skynet is not that strong i can only damage toy with skynet 40k-50k then u can counter GoH buy using pressure by RG, howling of mandragora, reflect damage for melee, defender for ranged cause i think when u change all skill of sura what will we do just like me some of us dont know how to use other jobs and w/o pneuma in woe or BR you think someone can survive RG, gene, or RK even iva and goddess need Ran so he can support them with pneuma then BR pneuma again

+1
Ive posted same as this
but they just ignored..
and i think they dont understand it...

Quoted from "x_haseo"

saying sura is op because you can't focus an armor counter to sura because of rk?
so what, if you use an armor counter to sura your gonna say that rk is op?
cmon, your not a god to deflect everything with just one armor?
you cant fight all jobs at a time!

+1
yeah
its only common sense...
that u change armor on fighthing
different Classes...
they really think that
theyre a god...or something/fail

Quoted from "vimvim23"

use strategies in WoE not just attack attack and attack in woe if you think carefully its so easy to counter sura in woe when you go in castles and someone is using skynet at entrance try to make suras with crescent elbow go in first the suras that are defending dies first then others will go in castle u can take it easily then

+1
Woe is rampage
and TeamWork when will they realize that????

Quoted from "Royal Defender"

A Sura with GoH, is basically a Champion with Asura strike, only it's more spammable and they can move better with BR due to no SP taken.

-1
Can i ask u...if have u tried sura B4??
coz i think u only say for what u saw...

Quoted from "Royal Defender"

You use Asura strike you have 0 SP left, but Goh is better than asura, yet they have SP left, And excuse me. I thought that ASURA strike was the skill that was supposed to be able to One shot people? Not GoH?

if i were u
what will u pick??

aesperika or valis manteu??
Variant or Sliepnir???

guess u know the answer now
and omg Back To GoH issue again...
Unlimited Rice...


@beck
i hate to argue w/u
but..if u still dont understand the point of this
people saying i cant blame u for being
ZeroPoint means zero byte memory of understandment..
u just +1 yeah +1 blah blah and no good reasons at all
yeah ur right a newbie.but dont lower that much..
its only common sense...
thnx peace out

I was a sura for months when i started, I know how they work, and i know that GoH DOESN'T require as much SP as Asura strike. Yet it's more powerful than asura.

+1 to vim and Solve13
if all SURA skill being nerf then what the point of them being play SURA?
JUST CHANGE YOUR PLAY STYLE..
LIKE VIM SAID.. LOL

okay okay.

So you're telling me that from now on, everyone on the server who isn't a sura HAS TO use GR, horn, 2x Raydric, 4x Alligator and a Helm of Hermes. JUST BECAUSE of this 1 class? And tell me, during WoE, you have to use them aswell? so that means that during woe, JUST TO COUNTER ONE CLASS you have to be open to Every other class out there?

NOT to mention the fact that Sura's dont even have to use Neutral, they can just use Skynet.

That is pathetic if you think that is fair

P.S. I was in WoE in other day and i was taking on a lot of the EA guild, it wasn't easy but it was bare-able, the only way they could kill me was with a sura. How is that fair?
OR i could change my build yes? But then i'd get killed by the rest of the Guild?

So what you're trying to say is that, Sura's should always have the power to be able to kill whoever they want where ever they want?

Don't tell me that you don't want to be killed ? And Don't tell me that you suggested about nerfing the Sura cause you were always killed by them ?

Cause based on what you said " The only way they could kill me was with a sura. "
And Btw why mention a guild ? Why just not set an example like i can kill all defending people but i always died on sura's ( not mentioning any guild ).

And Btw all classes has weakness.

i agree all classes have weakness,but if sura knows how to play then just think about it - pneuma,crescent,buffs,GOH malee and range,Skynet malee diff element,i dont see their weakness whne no malee can kill them and ranged will miss cause of pneuma,however you look it sura are OP

I mentioned a guild to back up my point.

and if i didn't want to get killed i wouldn't attack. I don't care about being killed, I'm thinking more about other people who are newer to the server, if they come here what will they think when everytime they see a sura it's 1 shot kill. Yeah good things sure.

And if you look again THIS was my point-
"So you're telling me that from now on, everyone on the server who isn't a sura HAS TO use GR, horn, 2x Raydric, 4x Alligator and a Helm of Hermes. JUST BECAUSE of this 1 class? And tell me, during WoE, you have to use them aswell? so that means that during woe, JUST TO COUNTER ONE CLASS you have to be open to Every other class out there?"

And let me guess, you're going to say, something like 'My point was that you don't to be killed' Before you do, look carefully. If you read that correctly, it clearly states that in WoE, you HAVE to use fire armor other wise you get owned very quickly by DB, but if you wear fire armor, a sura can 1 shot you, So what's the difference? Every castle just use 1 sura and 1 RK to defend and then anything else is a added bonus?

That will be a real fun woe

Quoted from "Royal Defender"

okay okay.

So you're telling me that from now on, everyone on the server who isn't a sura HAS TO use GR, horn, 2x Raydric, 4x Alligator and a Helm of Hermes. JUST BECAUSE of this 1 class? And tell me, during WoE, you have to use them aswell? so that means that during woe, JUST TO COUNTER ONE CLASS you have to be open to Every other class out there?

NOT to mention the fact that Sura's dont even have to use Neutral, they can just use Skynet.

That is pathetic if you think that is fair

P.S. I was in WoE in other day and i was taking on a lot of the EA guild, it wasn't easy but it was bare-able, the only way they could kill me was with a sura. How is that fair?
OR i could change my build yes? But then i'd get killed by the rest of the Guild?

So what you're trying to say is that, Sura's should always have the power to be able to kill whoever they want where ever they want?

The problem is not the the resist, your vit is the problem -> Thanatos card if you lower your vit to (60def) you wont get so awesome dmg.
Some player showed me that they can easily reduce the damage of goh to max 6k ea hit

I have neutral vit, so thanatos or non thanatos does the same.

Alright, now to solve the problem with GoH and BR. I suggest that there should be a 2 seconds delay to use all skills after GoH is used.

Remember Sacrimenti, or how ever you spell it, will make that 1 second after cast.

OMG so desperate to nerf the sura.

Anyways +1 to ace.

Even you suggested good some people will make a hole, find a way to make it bad and ends up to be nerf ( again ).

Nerfing and nerfing on some class is not really good on the server.

Nerf to ? to balance the server. If you continue on nerfing other classes more people will hate the server cause of this. They play that class cause they love it they are really good about it. And they heard that it will be nerf, sure they will complain about it cause its their class type. Don't be suprised why they are defending sura, I will be suprised if they are like 20 people disagreed about the sura. They will defend their class cause they are good at that class, they found it hard to play but they practiced and practiced. Like you do on the other thread last time.

I remembered that a random dude suggested about an RG nerfing it too, I remembered that he said RG is OP they can pawn in WOE in straight line, good tank, trap destroyer, fast runner, reflect. But what did you do ? You quickly closed the thread without letting any people know about their suggestion.

Ragnarok is class against class, Its not class Against all the class.

+1 to Titania you got a heart of gold

+1 to Erza Scarlet

Like i said before, changing the classes into what you WANT it to be is basically saying to the guys that created the classes "eff u your invention isn't up to my expectations" I suggest that this thread be dropped (not closed) but because even after 9pages there is still no approval/disapproval.

If you're saying that they maybe if that is the case, if you do not like things being nerfed that they should un-nerf DB and all the other skills they've changed to better suit the game. IT'S A HIGH RATE meaning things are going to get OP on here.

That is true jamie but people are only complaining now because people are now getting stronger.
Before the majority of the people played here, sura's weren't all that broken down into getting nerfed.
Yes, i die to suras but it's not like the server is flooded with suras. there are only a couple of suras that can actually
1hit ko. I find it silly to try to nerf a whole class just because someone found a way to be stronger. It's the same way with
Boom Headshot, His DS was doing 20k but no one suggested to nerf DS, it was the items that he was using not necessarily the skill.
It's not the skill, its the player that thinks of the ultimate build with items and stats to make it perfection.